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Post by jawa.57 Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:07 pm

this string, is for identification in my collection, i have approx 700 figures, and sometimes i forget if it's a meccano, pbp , and other, i have write meccano ( for this figure)... on the paper Wink
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Post by ourchickenshack Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:08 pm

Okay I believe I have waited long enough after this Ebay auction ended to share it with those here that may not have seen it ...

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I was not the purchaser but it is probably the coolest error I have ever seen buzzing

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It sold for $7,100 whew
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Post by Sturm86 Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:50 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that's a cool one (:

Is it a mistake made at the factory? Or maybe they had a bunch of over-produced C-3POs they didn't want to go to waste and willingly recycled as DSDs?
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Post by Chancellor_Peter Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:20 pm

ourchickenshack wrote:It sold for $7,100 whew

GAH I can imgaine how much more it would have been SOLD for IF the Kenner Proof Of Purchase seal was intact on the ESB 45A Card Back! buzzing jaw
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Post by General Kahn Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:47 pm

The Death Star Droid carded error is without doubt cool, but it falls into the category of unbelievable odds at the same time. In my post a while back I mentioned the unlikely situation of one figure having two errors because of the way in which figures where assembled. Now maybe some instances things where different so it would always be impossible to say for certain, but typically, the production process would be as followers:

Parts are produced in an injection mould on sprues. Torso, limb and heads are all produced in different moulds separately. Each mould produces several figure parts in one injection process, usually 2 or 3.
The sprue is removed from the mould and put into a box or container of some sort and the process is repeated, when the container is full it is sent to the next stage where someone cuts the parts from the sprue and puts them into separate containers, left leg, right leg etc. These are the sent to the next stage... Paint, where they are clamped into a spray mask and sprayed.
These are then boxed up and sent for assembly where the parts are randomly picked from a container and assembled.

This is my point. The chances of two errors pieces ending up on one figure that then also manages to make it through quality control are slim to none which is why I always struggle to trust them.
The Death Star C-3PO is an odd one because it is not only the wrong figure with the wrong spray app, it is also three wrong spray apps in the same place and to top it off, it's carded!!! It certainly is an odd one.

I actually have a DSD with no black paint on either shoulder, I've never really trusted it because of the unlikeness of it being produced that way. This certainly is interesting, I personally wouldn't trust it's authenticity just because of the way my mind is set but the hobby certainly does like to throw things at you every once in a while that just out right fuck up everything you think you know...... like the fourth Luke Bespin Lightsaber sculpt!!!!! That's a story for another day though Wink
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Post by ourchickenshack Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:54 pm

Good points Alex Very Happy

I have no clue if it is authentic or not but the seller was Collectible Investment Brokerage (Tom Derby , right ?)

I may be wrong but I thought he is a pretty well known guy scratch


This is what the auction description said :

Offered is a Vintage Kenner Star Wars C-3PO Paint Error on Empire Strikes Back 45 Back Death Star Droid Card.  We have never seen an error of this magnitude or an error this cool before.  We would speculate that a remaining stock of C-3POs, last used on 41-back cards prior to the release of the Removable Limbs version, were mixed up and painted as if they were Death Star Droids only to be placed on 45-back cards.  However, this is just a guess about how this could have happened.  We have never seen another like it.  This is a truly unique item and an amazing piece of Star Wars history.  We have thoroughly inspected the seal and stand behind its authenticity.
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Post by hellhippie Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:52 am

that's super cool , wish I owned him
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Post by ourchickenshack Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:29 pm

a couple more that I have seen ...

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:31 am

General Kahn wrote:The Death Star Droid carded error is without doubt cool, but it falls into the category of unbelievable odds at the same time. In my post a while back I mentioned the unlikely situation of one figure having two errors because of the way in which figures where assembled. Now maybe some instances things where different so it would always be impossible to say for certain, but typically, the production process would be as followers:

Parts are produced in an injection mould on sprues. Torso, limb and heads are all produced in different moulds separately. Each mould produces several figure parts in one injection process, usually 2 or 3.
The sprue is removed from the mould and put into a box or container of some sort and the process is repeated, when the container is full it is sent to the next stage where someone cuts the parts from the sprue and puts them into separate containers, left leg, right leg etc. These are the sent to the next stage... Paint, where they are clamped into a spray mask and sprayed.
These are then boxed up and sent for assembly where the parts are randomly picked from a container and assembled.

This is my point. The chances of two errors pieces ending up on one figure that then also manages to make it through quality control are slim to none which is why I always struggle to trust them.
The Death Star C-3PO is an odd one because it is not only the wrong figure with the wrong spray app, it is also three wrong spray apps in the same place and to top it off, it's carded!!! It certainly is an odd one.

I actually have a DSD with no black paint on either shoulder, I've never really trusted it because of the unlikeness of it being produced that way. This certainly is interesting, I personally wouldn't trust it's authenticity just because of the way my mind is set but the hobby certainly does like to throw things at you every once in a while that just out right fuck up everything you think you know...... like the fourth Luke Bespin Lightsaber sculpt!!!!! That's a story for another day though Wink

Is this for sure how every individual part and figure was made? Is it possible that since the paint doesn't cover a joint on the Death Star droid that the screen used was made for figures after assembly? It seems to make sense that they could make a larger screen to cover the entire upper torso except the arm plate and the eye holes and then sprayed the open areas. I have seen a video where they were painting modern figures and the head was already on the torso in the process. I don't remember what figure other than it was some girl being painted. It is possible that the arms were also already attached but I don't recall.
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Post by jawa.57 Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:05 am

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Post by hellhippie Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:43 am

funny I had a figure with filled in feet , I used a powerdrill on him . I also had a ben with the sabre arm too tight and did the same thing
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Post by chris.75 Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:38 pm

some fantastic new additions to this thread cheers

but man, (if genuine) that miscarded, paint error, C3P0 on a DSD card has to be the greatest/coolest factory error ever found!!!
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Post by Johnb Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:25 am

I have a short pour greedo with no coo :
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Post by Johnb Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:29 am

I also have two han solo hoth that have two different color legs and one is pink face and the other is pale one . I can not put on a stand because there is not enough hole in the feet .

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Post by Nico Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:27 am

Ambidextrous Boba lol!
Some cool errors guys cheers
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Post by chris.75 Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:27 pm

some great new additions to this thread guys cheers

This fella arrived in the post today Smile

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He is another short pour leg, but this one is different to my other in that it is the other leg, which means this time the coo and date stamp are intact.
He also appears to have a rather nasty case of herpes around his helmet  cheeky

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big thanks to James (ourchickenshack) for the ebay link Smile

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Post by Nico Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:25 pm

Great interesting figure Chris and a great addition to your Vader focus mate clapping
Just curious, was it advertised as a short pour/error figure, or just a normal listing ?
I am on the hunt for a Lando one of any type What a Face
Great thread guys very cool pieces cheers
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Post by chris.75 Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:34 pm

Nico wrote:
Great interesting figure Chris and a great addition to your Vader focus mate clapping
Just curious, was it advertised as a short pour/error figure, or just a normal listing ?
I am on the hunt for a Lando one of any type What a Face
Great thread guys very cool pieces cheers


Thanks Andy Smile
It was not listed as a "short pour" or factory error in the description.
But was described in the listing as having a shorter leg and foot.

Good luck with your search for a Lando, buddy.

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Post by hellhippie Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:39 pm

cool vader Chris ... congrats
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Post by ourchickenshack Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:08 am

Really awesome that you got that Vader Chris - didn't look like anyone else even bid on it yay

BTW Andy - if I ever see any Lando errors or oddities you know you'll be the 1st person I tell about them What a Face
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Post by Nico Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:21 pm

This Lando was a gift from a very good friend about a year ago I think  scratch I forgot I had him but found him yesterday  Very Happy Looks to have a bit of overspray on his left eye  cheers
Looks like someone lamped him and gave him a black eye  lol!

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Post by hellhippie Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:49 am

lol great lando Andy , I love this thread
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Post by Johnb Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:35 pm

I have this posted in another discussion area.i have had this since new.nobody I know of has messed with it,but I am not sure if it is a factory have spray on the eyes and eyebrows.

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Post by Nico Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:13 pm

Great Luke Johnb cheers
I remember going into toy stores as a kid to purchase a new figure, which ever character I was after next, I would take every single one off the rack and check them all out individually in order to get the one with the best paint apps/least defects/ straightest sabre ect. I got some funny looks from the store staff doing this, but I wanted my figures looking the best cheers Come to think of it I still do that today when buying a collectable item lol!
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