Chief Chirpa white fur varaint

Hi guys, I was hoping some of you may be able to help me confirm a few things concerning the white fur chief chirpa variant
so calling all you variant collectors who have a white fur variant, does your white fur have more thinly applied paint apps, including smaller eyes, compared to your regular grey chirpas?
Or is it just that my grey Chirpa has thicker than normal paint application?

here is a paint comparison pic between my regular grey, white fur no coo, and white fur HK coo Chirpas

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does anyone else's white furs match up to these paint differences?



Do your White furs also come equipped with lighter staff and hoods, if so which coo?
There are four different coo variants over two different mould families for the white fur variant I believe.
Do all come with the lighter accessories, or are they linked to just one mould family?


My 1-A1A2 white fur Chirpa came with a light yellowish brown (ochre), glossy hood, but I had no staff with him.

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My recently aquired no coo 1-A1 white fur Chirpa came with a lighter, matte brown hood and lighter staff with the tapered point.

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does everyone else's white fur come with these accessories, or are some of them different, and if so how, and with which family and coo?

any help and confirmation of findings on this variant would be greatly appreciated  

cheers.

Interesting questions Chris. Hopefully some of the other variant collectors out there can help.

Yes, could be that way. Looking at my one it seems the paintings are slightly thinner than from the others. The hood is slightly lighter in colour and not that glossy. Staff is 100% legit to this one and seems to be the same colour. Holger (TheGent) told me there is a lighter variant of the staff going with the white fur Chirpa, but with my definitely not.

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Thank you for posting your pic Dirk
Yes it looks like the paint apps on your white fur are thinner in appearance too, also having the smaller eyes, it looks very similar to the paint apps on my no coo white fur.

Would you say that your White fur has the V2 hood in the pic below?
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My no coo white fur came with this hood. Is your white fur a no coo?
My HK white fur came with the glossy, more ochre, V3 hood.
V1 is the darkest (in hand) with a more plum colour, it came with the regular grey Chirpa.

The staff that came with yours looks like V3 in the pics below, which is the same mould as V2, just darker in colour.
my no coo white fur came with the lighter V2 staff.
V1 came with the regular Grey.

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Hi Chris, my White fur is a no COO with the V2 Hood. But I'm a bit confused about the staff Variants. The colour matches best the V2 Version. But it is hard to tell by Picture.

You have two pics for the V2 Staff. I'm a bit confused about this, because I thought it should be the same staff for and backside. But that is not true if you look at the tip.

The upper staff has the tip on the left side at the bottom and the lower one has the tip on the right side at the top. So the staff was turned twice for the pic and both end up with the same side visible. Am I right???

This means these must be two different staffs for V2 because the mold of the knob differs between these two, ifyou assume to see the same side on the pic.
You see I'm pretty confused about the staffs. Hope you get along with my humble english.

Thank you for confirming the coo and hood variant for me Dirk, yours are the same as my no coo white fur

I have no problem understanding you my friend, your English is very good, and a damn site better than my German  

In each staff pic there is a front and back image of the staff.
with regards to the V2 staff pic, it is the same mould as V3 only a much lighter colour. I only have one sample of each of these staffs, so therefore they can not be mixed up in the pics.

With the V2 pic in particular you can tell the difference from front and back, by the presence of two EPM marks on one side, as well as the direction in which the tapered point is facing.
so this pic is correct, showing both sides of the staff

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my no coo white fur also came with the lighter brown V2 staff, thank you for helping me to confirm that mine had the correct variation of accessories

Does anyone else have a white fur chirpa, perhaps with a different coo, but has the same variation of accessories? Or that their accessories differ?

please do chime in guys

If you turn the upper staff in the pic like a clock from nine to three it ends in exactly the same position as the lower staff. And you are still looking on the same side of the staff - not the backside.
If you'd then turn it to the backside, the oblique part of the tip would be on the upper side not on the downside as shown.
You see what I mean?

Chris, I've just checked my white fur Chirpas one is a no coo, the other is HK (I'll confirm the classification of the coo's / mold families in daylight tomorrow). Both have the same paint apps & lighter coloured accessories as yours.

If it helps, I can try taking pics & post them here?

Akial wrote:If you turn the upper staff in the pic like a clock from nine to three it ends in exactly the same position as the lower staff. And you are still looking on the same side of the staff - not the backside.
If you'd then turn it to the backside, the oblique part of the tip would be on the upper side not on the downside as shown.
You see what I mean?

I understand what you are saying Dirk, it makes sense.
Perhaps what might be confusing, is that when I took the pics, each side of the staff was facing in the same direction.
I then flipped the bottom one over, to face in the opposite direction, when compositing the picture using photoshop.
It just looks better that way round, instead of having both staffs facing in the same direction.
But both top and bottom pics on V2 are definitely of the opposing sides of the same staff

When I come to add these to the library card entry, perhaps I should take the pics again, and physically turn them in opposite directions, rather than doing it in photoshop.
Perhaps that will be less confusing for people.
thanks again for all your info and comments Dirk  

cantina_patron wrote:Chris, I've just checked my white fur Chirpas one is a no coo, the other is HK (I'll confirm the classification of the coo's / mold families in daylight tomorrow). Both have the same paint apps & lighter coloured accessories as yours.

If it helps, I can try taking pics & post them here?

Thanks for chiming in Steve  
It would be great if you could post up some pics here for us to look at  
That way we can see if yours are the same coos as mine.
So your no coo came with a matte, light brown hood and light V2 staff, and your HK coo came with a glossy, ochre, V3 hood, with lighter V2 staff?

Here is my white fir Chief Chirpa, it's the No COO (raised bar date, no Markings on the other leg) His hood is light in colour and so is his Staff


Comparison next to a standard 'grey' H.K. The colours in this photo are pretty accurate as they appear to the eye.


The light brown staff can definately be found in at least two shades of light brown, it's not easy to see in the picture but to the eye they are different.


In reference to the thin paint, this does seem to be the case, at least on my one example. The small eyes though can also be found on the H.K. figures, also the white paint can be dull or bright.

Excuse the picture quality, but here are my two white Chirpas. The one on the left is a no coo with matt hood & light V2 staff. The one on the Right is a HK coo with glossy hood & slightly darker (as Alex described above) V2 staff.


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thanks for chiming in Alex and Steve

thats interesting, I didn't know about the second shade of light brown staff
but so far it is adding up that at least one mould family, containing the no coo (and later produced?) HK coo  from family #1 do come with the lighter brown hood and staff, whether it be the V2 staff or its slightly darker counterpart.

It would be interesting to find out if the second mould family also came with the lighter accessories or if they came with a different variant again?
Presumably both moulds originate from the same factory?
So you would assume that they would have been assembled with the same accessories?

If either of you guys would like to send me copies of your slightly darker brown staffs, on a white background, I can then create more accessory comparison pics for the library card entries

That turn out really interesting. thanks Chris for starting this theme.

Just a side question. Does the white fur chirpa cost considerably more than the grey chirpa?

tongshen88 wrote:Just a side question. Does the white fur chirpa cost considerably more than the grey chirpa?

They do generally command a premium if they are advertised correctly & come with the correct accessories (You can still find bargains that slip through the net though).

chris.75 wrote:thanks for chiming in Alex and Steve

If either of you guys would like to send me copies of your slightly darker brown staffs, on a white background, I can then create more accessory comparison pics for the library card entries

I'm happy to try Chris, but the colour difference is pretty subltle. It's very dull here at the moment, so I'm affraid it won't be today.

cantina_patron wrote:

tongshen88 wrote:Just a side question. Does the white fur chirpa cost considerably more than the grey chirpa?

They do generally command a premium if they are advertised correctly & come with the correct accessories (You can still find bargains that slip through the net though).

Cool. Would you recommend trying to remove the yellowing on a chief chirpa if I do decide to get one thats cheap but yellowed?

tongshen88 wrote:
Cool. Would you recommend trying to remove the yellowing on a chief chirpa if I do decide to get one thats cheap but yellowed?

Definitly not!
Although people have got seemingly good short term results with whitening yellowed figures, the process alters / damages the plastic. Also, I have read accounts where whitened figures have gradually turned yellow again.

my no coo white fur chirpa comes with a light staff and hood as well .

heres my no coo white fur chirpa with correct light accessories . my staff has a tapered end as well


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Thanks for chiming in Bill, could you take a shot of your date stamp, so we can see which mould family it may come from. As It is possible, that it may be different to my no coo, Cheers

sure chris here ya go
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thank you for your quick response Bill, yeah it is the same as mine.
Does anyone have a white fur with a different coo? If so, which accessories did it come with?
please chime in guys

I thought I'd post up some coo pics of the white fur variants, still yet to be confirmed with lighter brown accessories and tapered staff.

Here are the wo confirmed coos that we have seen in the posts above, both are from family #1 of our (yet to be published) coo guide:


These coos are both from family #2, they are known to have white fur variations, but as of yet no one has chimed in with a white fur with this coo. If anyone has one that matches, please do chime in.

The last 4 COOs you can in my picture are white furs.
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